Tour de France Contenders

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   One might say “it’s a right Basquard”

   • Weird, that included the quote “I’ve ridden it three times now and prefer labels like “jagged”, “searing” or simply “Basque”.” before I posted

     • You probably need to avoid the use of “special characters” (especially “less than” and “greater than”). I suspect your comment was mistaken for a “Cross Site Scripting” attack (XSS). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross-site_scripting

2. After stage 3 only 3 contenders will be left, Froome, Dumoulin and Porte.
   After stage 9 only Froome, Dumoulin are left and maybe Nibali rides himself into contention.
   By stage 20 its Froome, Dumoulin with either Nibali, Porte, Uran or Soler third.
   The other GT notables will have a few great stages but not enough of them.
   I hope its a fun, exciting tour and not another TTT de France by Sky.

   • Anon,
     I too, believed that it would be a 3-horse race after Stage 3… yet today’s time differences would indicate otherwise. The 51s loss has greatly dampened the damage SKY and BMC will inflict on the other favourites on Monday. Also, with the exception of G, SKY lost minutes today – Moscon, Kwiatko, Castroviejo… their dream scenario of filling up the front row of the grid for that novelty 65km stage look dead and buried with just 1 stage ridden!
     It should help to liven up the race a bit.

3. Anyone but Froome, lets have a change!

4. As much as I love a good understud… I’m not sure that is what you meant re Geraint Thomas.

   Thanks for the write up and tour guide. Was looking at the guide in particular today. As you say there isn’t much in way of breaks for the GC riders.

   • Fixes between reading and posting

     • Bravo Mark 😂

5. Lolz at the thought of Geraint being an “understud”. Best typo ever.

6. Here we are again, shortly before Le Tour, and once again any number of riders are being talked up as “contenders”. I’m never quite sure what a “contender” is supposed to be but I am very sure that most of the names I hear bandied about are at least speculative and at most pure fantasy. So I turned to the bookies for advice to see who these craven-hearted capitalists trying to take fools’ money on the race were backing. Below is a list of the top 15 names I found on Oddschecker so that I couldn’t be accused of choosing the names myself. Along with the names I attach necessarily brief comments about why each rider WON’T win the Tour de France. I’ll finish with my 3 riders most likely to do well.

   Froome – He has three problems, fatigue, pressure and the crowd. No one will want him to win. It will be his greatest (and so hardest) achievement if he does. Second will mean nothing to him, but can he overcome everything? He will need all his powers of recovery and determination here and without any silly mistakes, to which he is sometimes prone.

   Porte – No matter how many one week races he wins (and the recent Suisse win was on a relatively easy, TT-heavy course), he is dubious over 3 weeks. Doubt will only be turned away when he does it on the road with 3 week consistency. Also, the clock is ticking Richie!

   Quintana – The Colombian has tried to beat Froome 4 times in France and failed every time. Why is this year and this course anymore suitable to him? TTs will leave him needing to attack mountain stages as he did at Arosa in the Tour de Suisse. But will he be as brave on French roads and will team mates (i.e. Landa) help or go rogue?

   Landa – For all the talk, Landa has but one GT podium and is usually not his team’s plan A. This year seems no different. Will he even beat Quintana? He had a poor Suisse so maybe we should get ready for #FreeLanda all over again.

   Nibali – Vincenzo had a very poor Dauphine and barely featured. Froome is also one guy he struggles to beat in a GT at all and his last three GTs were all races he failed to win. But, unlike others, he can freelance a race and force time gains yet it will need to be good Nibali and not bad Nibali who turns up if he really hopes to win. More likely, he wins a stage once the hopes of a GC win have faded (see 2015 Tour).

   Dumoulin – Is the Diesel Dutchman even going for GC? He seemed much more fatigued than Froome at the end of the Giro. Why will he win now, against a much harder field, when he didn’t win in May? His team is also a concern and his time trial powers lessen when the time trials come deep into races.

   Bardet – I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: time trials! Between the TTT and ITT I see Bardet with a 3.30 deficit to catch up on before he turns a pedal. Is he that much better a rider in the mountains than TTers like Froome, Porte or Dumoulin? Nope.

   Thomas – Geraint can think what he likes but he’s plan B and people are waiting for him to fail. He doesn’t seem to have the top end climbing ability and in many respects reminds you of Bradley Wiggins who needed a flatter course and many time trial kilometers to win. Hard to see him staying with the elite climbers here day after day.

   Uran – Mr “always only does enough.” In this field he should suffer though as others must do more to create gaps and he can’t surf them all alone as he will surely be.

   Yates – Adam Yates has finished 4th in the Tour but has never yet threatened a win. Again, as with others at the worse end of the ITT spectrum, he will need to out-climb his rivals but its questionable if, on the greatest of stages, he can and consistently.

   Valverde – Alejandro must be plan C, a luxury domestique. The real high mountains may see him chug and amazing circumstances must be envisaged to see him winning the race, not least because two team mates will see themselves as in front of him in the pecking order.

   Fuglsang – The Dane impressed at Suisse but was still 1.02 behind Porte. He’s a very game rider but surely outclassed in this field.

   Bernal – The Colombian rider is certainly a future superstar but here is riding for experience even though he is already getting wins and podiums in world tour races like Romandie and California. He has nothing to lose but also won’t be prioritised here unless things go very south for Sky, by which time it will be too late anyway. Possible white jersey winner?

   Martin – Dan Martin is the Mr Try Hard of the peloton. He never gives up. But, as we have seen at the Tour several times now, this just isn’t enough. Martin suffers from a poor time trial and a poor team and neither are going to help him get anywhere near the podium.

   Roglic – Primoz Roglic has had an outstanding season so far and in this race he has absolutely nothing to lose. But does he have 3 week form and what will he be like on the really long, hard, multiple mountain stages that we generally only get in grand tours? He, like some others here, won’t have much team help. I expect him to do well, to even surprise, but I see him behind several others in this field.

   My top three with the best chance to win: Froome, Quintana, Nibali (having won a GT before counts for a lot!)

   • Bookies’ odds are more a function of where the general public are putting their money than an estimate of probability calculated by a prediction model or a human expert. In a national market, riders from that country will have lower odds because e.g. lots of Australians will bet on Richie Porte.

     • Oddschecker collates bookies across numerous markets. Not that it matters anyway. Its just a name list generator. Was interesting that bookies give Bernal more chance than Dan Martin though.

       • Much as I like Dan I think the bookies odds are correct, Dan is very unlikely to win

       • As Vedrafjord said, it’s not the bookies who give Bernal more chance than Martin – it’s the “fools” who actually put money on the line who determine the odds.

         You also seem to mistake the terms “contenders” and “favorites.”

   • Honestly, your posts are tedious enough as they are, because the reality always has to bend to fit in, no matter if it wants or if it just wants to escape you as fast as possible. And the smugness of your „I, a person of the world, know what I talk about and all others are just naive and clueless losers (including of course every prodessional rider other than one)“ is never very pretty. Usually I just ignore you. But this one is a bit too much. My opinion can‘t be a big surprise for you as many people before me have pointed out in responses to you on this blog the same thing as I. And I would surely try to find nicer or more understanding words, if your posts and the attitude behind it wouldn‘t be so insulting, but as you prefer to not think about the feelings or thoughts of other people, I am sure you will appreciate, that I tried to adhere to your example.

     I think a good solution would be, if you had your own blog for your posts. Clearly you think you are an expert and clearly you have a view you want to bring across – so why not take this chance? I think it will only help your comments here, when you have a different place for your posts. I think my words will be futile, as others were before, but well, we all have to try to make the world a bit better, right?

     • Anonymous, fortunately what you think impacts nobody. This a comment section for Tour contenders. I wrote comments about Tour contenders. It matters not a jot to me what you think about me personally. We are anonymous strangers. If you have comments about the contenders or the content of my post that would be more pertinent both to my specific comment and this post and blog as a whole.

       Go back to ignoring me. I’m sure we’ll both survive.

       • You didn’t write “comments”, you wrote what amounted to a blog post. Just because you call it a duck, doesn’t make it a duck.

         • Cry me a river. If our host finds nothing wrong with it thats ok. If he zaps it, fine too. I wrote about a cycle race. Others write about me.

         • I thought it was a good comment by RonDe and enjoyed reading it. A bit long perhaps, but I didn’t see the alleged smugness.

         • +1

         • I agree.

         • We all see what we want to see jim.

       • RonDe, that was a good reply. I think Anonymous went a little too far.

         Everyone is entitled to their opinion.

         Sometimes I wish you did express your opinion a little differently though. To me, it is often too much through the prism of Froome / Sky, and where others have a different opinion, you’re hardly accepting that others could possibly have a different view.

         That said, my initial reaction to your post original post was “here we go we go again”, but I was a little tainted by preconceived ideas. In the end, I reconsidered, and the length of the post aside (15 is a long list!), you are giving a view on each rider, and obviously, a riders prospects need to be relative to those they are competing against.

         • Thank you, Mark. Actually, I limited it to 15 even though some may think I missed out guys who they consider “contenders” like Zakarin. All the guys I referred to were 20/1 or less when I wrote it.

           Regarding your general point: people don’t have to like or agree with what I post. They can feel free to ignore it. But to write complaining or being personally insulting about me rather than pointing out the flaws in my comments about a rider or race is simply going off the point of this blog. Its a (very good) cycling blog not a RonDe blog. If someone thinks Froome will lose then I’m quite happy for them to reply to whatever I say telling me why. “RonDe you are horrible” means zero to me from a bunch of anonymous strangers and was a waste of the poster’s time and Inrng’s bandwidth.

           PS I didn’t even say Froome would win in my post just like I didn’t for the Giro either!

     • I enjoyed the comment. Was about the first one I read properly.

       Nice list. But I doubt if these 15 will all fit into the top 15 😀

       While RonDe _may_ have a set of heroes and anti-heroes that not everyone will agree with, and everybody loves their own opinions, this post didn’t exhibit that.

       It was a valuable contribution to the debate.

       No Zacharin though.

       And surely 2 out of 3 of the white jersey podium could get into the the top 15, if not the top 10.

   • I read RonDe’s comment and thought it was interesting and relevant to cycling.
     I thought Anonymous’s comment was rude, impolite and an unnecessary personal attack that didn’t add anything to cycling.

     While we are on the topic of odds, I don’t think there are many good ‘value’ bets out there – mostly because 3 week grand tours carry such a high risk of accidents and sickness. The only one I could think of would be to bet Tomas finishes in the top 10 or top 3 – as the pay off is pretty high because it is based on the odds of him winning, which is unlikely – but I think if you consider this a bet ‘that something happens to Froome’ then with the full backing of Sky G should be able to land a top 10 or maybe even top 3. As I said I don’t think there are many good bets out there. The chance of any one rider finishing unscathed is always less than they are offering.

7. “Third in the Vuelta last year and fifth in the Vuelta mean Ilnur Zakarin‘s CV should land with a thud when applying to win the Tour de France or at least going for the podium”

   *fifth in the Giro 🙂

8. Whilst I don’t consider Dumoulin a realistic contender for the overall, if anything this TT suits him more than a boring old straight road. For a TTer he’s extraordinary at handling changes in terrain and tempo.

   • He could do well on the course, just like the flew up the climb in Bergen. It’s more his relative advantage here vs Froome, Porte etc, or even Landa and Bardet.

     • I don’t think TD is that strong in TTS in a third week. He is world champ on a one day but he isn’t the same, compared to his gc rivals, in the third week. In the recent giro he didn’t gain minutes or even win the stage in the third week to, where is what we could have expected on a stand-alone race like the worlds, he scraped 20s on Froome and came 3rd on the stage.

   • I think Dumoulin is going to suffer the effects of the Giro and won’t feature in the GC by the end.

9. excellent short and precise preview.

   the golden retriever would be well informed now : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmHl7hKlVj4

10. Froome, Porte, Nibali, Yates, Dumoulin (hope Kruijswijk gets a top ten)

    I think Movistar will loose time in the TTT and on the roads to Roubaix, Bardet in the time trials, Uran seems to blow hot and cold and this will be a “cold year”. Thomas will have a bad day.

    Fulsang and Zakarin could ride high though but it’s a tough crowd they’ll have to get past

11. I have Valverde down on ‘Froome-marking’ duties, similar to his role in Quintana’s Vuelta win.
    If anything is going to unseat Froome it is a collective and unrelenting approach by his rivals.
    If they *all* make it hard, will Froome eventually wilt?
    If the others are content to let Team Sky sit on the front and dictate, then we know how that plays out.

    How that collective collaboration happens is also another problem, however.

12. Froome is the favourite and until he fails everything else is just speculation. He has won 5 of his last 6 grand tours and should have won the other one as well. The reason he has those stats is because he can do it all. He has also, in a way few give him credit for, made himself better over the years. So, incidents and accidents aside, it has to be him.

    • but….are you speculating that everything else is just speculation?

13. Stage 13 of the Tour. Won by cav, valverde punctured, got gapped in echelons and fell from second all the way out of contention.

    • Good pick…. but was it a tactical mistake or sheer bad luck (or both)? I remember that day to St Amand Monrond, I predicted it to be the most boring of the stage… it came alive in the crosswinds when Quick Step split things up, Quintana rode well.

      • I suppose it’s both, and telling that you have to go back five years for a moment when he may have made a tactical error.

        • He does have a tendency to get caught out in crosswinds 2015(stage 2) and 2012 (stage 6). He almost got caught out in 2014 as well. It does depend on any team deciding to force it when it gets windy during that first week or maybe on stage 13 ( I don’t know what the roads are like around there, but I remember Dan Martin getting caught out in a stage in that area last year

      • Valverde tactical mistake: was the name on his blood bags from Operation Portico.

        Although sincerely, I’m an admire of him I would suggest pound for pound one of the best all round bike racers in the pro peloton today.

14. The fact that Froome has done the Giro makes the Tour a bit more interesting this year. If he hadn’t then with his team and the TTT he’d be an absolute certainty. Logic says that having done a very hard Giro he’d do well to finish in the middle of the top 10. Logic also says that doing 4 Grand Tours in a row for the win is more or less impossible. But the usual rules don’t seem to apply to Froome so I expect him to win. His closest challenger should be Porte but something is bound to happen. Crosswinds in Brittany or a puncture as it splits on the cobbles. It’ll go down as bad luck but after so many attempts it can’t be luck. I think on consistency over the 3 weeks Nibali will be second. Never the best climber or time trialist but always there and alert to his chances in the first week. I’d like Quintana and Landa to be a surprise and ride aggressively. It won’t be that much of a surprise from Landa but he’ll probably have too much to do. I expect Dumoulin to have a traditional post Giro hangover and end up stage hunting. This years Uran could be Roglic. Looking forward to it.

    • “the usual rules don’t seem to apply to Froome”

      Quite so.

      • They never do to extraordinary athletes. Nor should we expect them to.

15. Between cobbles and descents, Nibali will have a strong tour.

16. As always an astute summary of the various riders chances (The Mikel Landa picture is excellent, it looks more film audition than podium 🙂 ).

    Stage 3 has to loom large in any assessment of the likely winner. Loosing lots of time there is going to be difficult to come back from. That would seem to narrow it down to (assuming 1st place not 3rd) Chris Froome, Geraint Thomas, Richie Porte and Adam Yates with maybes for Nairo Quintana, Mikel Landa and Tom Dumoulin. I am not convinced stage 9 is going to be quite as decisive as it might be (weather forecast for northern France over the next week or so is generally warm and dry) maybe Vincenzo Nibali could try to get away but I doubt it. I would say that going into the mountains Sky will hold yellow with maybe 4 riders in the top 10. If so they are going to be extremely difficult to beat. Even if Chris Froome falls away one or more of the other riders can pick it up. Whilst the final TT might not be a nailed on cert for Tom Dumoulin it will give Chris Froome, Geraint Thomas and Richie Porte a real opportunity to claw back significant time if they need to.

    I think the top 4 will be (in no particular order) Chris Froome, Geraint Thomas, Richie Porte and Nairo Quintana.

    Richie Porte looks to be the best equipped to challenge Chris Froome but there are some nagging doubts both of his own self belief (suggesting your best hope is if your main rival has bad legs does not sound positive to me) and how well the team will perform given the issues surrounding BMC. If the stars align and Chris Froome falters then maybe but I think realistically 2nd or 3rd.

    Geraint Thomas has been impressive recently, his time trialling seems to be getting even better (the Sky TTT unit is scarily strong) and he performed well to win the Dauphine. If he has a weakness it is on super steep finishes, but not sure there are many of those here. If Chris Froome is in contention I just cant see G going for the win. If Sky blow everyone else away 2nd is possible, if Chris Froome falters in some way maybe he could just snatch it on the final TT.

    Nairo Quintana is clearly focused on this race. He is not that bad at TTs (and the TT here probably suits him more than many) and is arguably the best climber around. However the team issues, both the soap opera (not sure I believe all the denials and media puff) within the team and the questions over tactics, are likely to hinder him. If he can go into Stage 10 less than a minute behind then he could be in with a big chance more likely he will have to try for some sort of mountain ambush to pull back a couple of minutes or more. If so I dont believe he will make it. To sum up, good first week = possible winner, average to bad first week = 3rd at best.

    Chris Froome is the clear favourite. I dont believe all the fatigue stuff. Practically every observer (me included) had ruled him out of the Giro yet he came back and simply blew the rest of the field (with the exception of Tom Dumoulin) away. His determination to succeed is astonishing. Whatever the issues and the hostility of some of the crowds he goes on. He has, arguably, the strongest team ever at the Tour to support him. He has risen to every challenge he has set for himself over the past few years. The usual accidents and incidents notwithstanding I think he will be on the podium in Paris wearing yellow for the 5th time being congratulated through gritted teeth by M. Prudhomme and M. Lappartient (Bernard Hinault having gone off in a puff of smoke 🙂 )

    • Ha, that mental picture that you’ve laid out at the end will be enough motivation in itself for Froome, I am sure.

      • Puff of smoke? Knowing Hinault, more like Bikini.

        • The concept of Bernard Hinault in a bikini is one I am finding difficult to visualise :). Perhaps a visit to a tropical island with no internet might be good for his blood pressure in the next few weeks…….

          • “See the girl on the TV dressed in a bikini
            She doesn’t think so but she’s dressed for the H-bomb”

            Gang of Four

    • “The Mikel Landa picture is excellent, it looks more film audition than podium”

      Excellent shot, yes, but I got a different vibe – more of a “well if this is what it’s going to be like then I’d happily never be a podium girl again” sort of image…and seriously – what’s the point?

      At the risk of causing him to spontaneously combust, I’d say Dumoulin. Hell, EVERYONE was tired after that Giro. Tom’s unfinished business is more urgent.

17. I have a feeling that by tomorrow evening, one of those major contenders will be out of contention. Tomorrow is going to be nervy. Not windy enough to cause splits, but I just sense that it will be ridden extremely hard. A touch of wheels and someone is gone.

18. Froome doesn’t have any specific weakness (apart from not liking the cold, perhaps), unlike every other contender.
    He also seems less prone to fatigue than other riders from grand tour to grand tour.
    Even more notable are his quasi-miraculous recoveries within grand tours, as seen at last year’s Vuelta and particularly this year’s Giro.
    I can’t recollect another rider (perhaps other readers can?) who has been so out of form at an earlier point of a grand tour and then went on to win it.

    • Nibali Giro 2016. He needed a lot of luck to win but he created his luck by getting better and by pushing the coat hanger to the fault.

    • Nibali didn’t look good at all in the Giro 16 before winning it (helped by Kruijswijk’s misforture)

      • Nibali did force that ‘misfortune’ though…

        • true

          • SK broke his ribs, Chaves got sick. How much did Nibali actually improve?

          • He was 1.20 behind Valverde at that point too.

          • But Valverde isn’t one for the big, high mountains.

    • Froome may have another unseen weakness, and that is team sky’s unwillingness to have a plan b. If, and it is a big if, he is still fatigued from the giro, how quickly will Brailsford throw full resources behind another leader. Given Froome’s ability in the past to ‘recover’ from a slow start, they may be reluctant to count him out even if he’s looking bad.
      I have no evidence for this, so no flaming from the fanboys please, but I believe, even with the extra week that the Giro/ Tour double in this era is too hard.

      • I wonder whether G has been told a while ago that he’ll get joint billing (or top in case Froome didn’t make it) to make sure he did the boring hours on Tiede, didnt eat cake or drink any beers since easter etc etc…

        • To me, that would make sense, but team sky don’t seem to roll that way.
          Eggs and Baskets seems to be there m.o.

    • Contador Vuelta 2012 ?

      • That was more a day of great tactics from Contador/woeful tactics from Rodriguez. There wasn’t any huge change in Contador’s form.

19. Lets see how the first 9 days play out, then revisit the chances, seriously hoping that Sky or BMC dont get minutes in the TTT, hate them or not, Froome or Porte with a minute or so in hand as they hit the 2nd part of this race could dampen the spirits.

    Roglic podium for me as a dark horse. He looks the real deal, will get one day where he can fly under the radar and that should be enough to gain time on the Bardets, Quintana’s of this world.

20. Nibali finished 30th when he did the Giro-Tour double. Quintana finished 12th. Contador was 5th. (At least Nibali and Contador had won the Giro though.)

    How can Froome possibly win? It will put every other “contender” into stark relief if he does.

21. I expect Thomas to be in yellow at the start of stage 10, so the interesting thing will be how far ahead of Froome, and how will that impact Sky? 30 seconds ahead, and Sky will persuade him to be a domestique, 2 minutes plus ahead and he might be able to persuade Sky to keep him back and event designate a support rider for him.

    Really looking forward to the last week (I suspect Froome will be in the lead by then, but might tail off), and also how will Froome do on the cobbles (when was the last time he raced on cobbles, given that he pulled out before them a few years back?)

    • one scenario that would be interesting would be if Thomas is within a minute of a tiring Froome on that last TT… to have a potential record breaking 5th win whipped from under your nose by a team mate….

      I’m well aware however that for that scenario to be in place the race might well have been a Sky borefest that few want to see…

    • 2015, the stage at which Tony Martin won & got into yellow. Tried to clip off the front in the last 5 km with Thomas but got bought back.

      • Yes, Froome showed his prowess on the cobbles.
        Also, I don’t think Sky are going to let Thomas ride off on the cobbles and leave Froome behind: Thomas will be working as Froome’s domestique on that stage (and every other) and his job will be to take Froome to the line – with as much time on others as possible.
        Thomas has never shown that he has it in the high mountains in a GT – and Sky know his capabilities better than anyone.
        I think the scenario where Thomas is a GT contender is wishful thinking on the part of Brits.

22. I like Bardet, he rides with guts and is attacking. However until he can tile trial better there is no chance he wins a TdF with Froome and Dumoulin around. No point in even considering it. He should go to the Vuelta and build a palmares while he has the years in his favor.

    • I agree. Same goes for Dan Martin and quite a few others – the likes of Kruijswijk, Mollema… maybe this could be Pinot’s year.
      Far better to win the Vuelta – or at least have that possibility – than a nondescript placing at the Tour.
      And this year’s Vuelta could be the ideal opportunity – a lot of people are going to be knackered and many GC contenders might also be focused on a very rare chance to take a World title.

23. In 2016, Kruijswijk took a real step up. From someone who needed some actual climbing or a fairly weak field to feature, he suddenly had a great Tour of Yorkshire. Not the hour long climbs he usually preferred, that was an entirely different form from before. He’s not on that level yet this year, but he sure looks stronger than he used to.

    Mollema of course had that Tour where he was 2nd for some time, and put time in almost everyone on the Ventoux stage before fading eventually in the 3rd week. If he can get close to that level again and keep it together, I wouldn’t be surprised if he matched or improved on his best ever GT finish.

    The difficulty is there are at least 20 riders we wouldn’t be surprised finding in the final top 10, 10 riders or so for the best 5, but every winner could be a surprise. For my money, it’s probably Nibali vs Quintana.

24. Re: Adam Yates: “..because as twins they are similar but not identical riders.” Could someone elaborate on this? Watching them ride I cannot tell any difference, they seem to me like carbon copy riders and I really don’t know where one is better than the other 🙂

    Besides, on paper this is a very strong lineup of contenders and I really hope that we will finally see an interesting tour, because it’s been a long long time since we had one.

    I will root for Nibali, he looks very lean and I hope he will enlighten this tour, starting with the cobbled stage next Sunday. My only concern is the TTT. Sky will put a lot of time into most of the teams and will then be able to control the race in the manner we’ve seen for years.

25. That Landa pic is classic… Grinding the best climbers in the world to pulp over some mountain pass… or sandwiched between two models. The man is chiseled stone.

    • I am worried that he may not be able to drag those eyebrows around this parcours but would love to see him go well. I’m also feeling the love for Primoz Roglic.
      Maybe I’m just building up for a disappointment but I’m more excited about this edition than I have been for a long time.

      • I’m liking Roglic too. Who knows if f he can string a good 3 weeks together, but starting late he’s getting better fast.., like someone younger, but already with years of elite sport discipline from his ski jumping. Looking forward to seeing what he lays down

26. I think G Thomas will end up winning this year. Yes, he goes slowly down hills (assuming he makes it to the bottom at all), and yes, he goes slowly up hills in the 3rd week of Tours, but this year will be different (mark my words). After the cobbled stage he’ll have probably have at least a minute on all contenders, and the only ones within 2 minutes will be Froome, and maybe Tom D and Valverde. If he’s asked to wait for Froome on stage 9, i’m guessing he’ll ignore the instructions and ride for himself, which would lead to a very interesting 2 weeks in the Sky bus.( I don’t think there is any chance the GVA will help Porte on stage 9, he will ride for the stage win.).
    The only thing worse than G going downhill is Movistar’s tactics, so they are nothing to worry about. I think Landa will try and light things up in the mountains, but he’ll be minutes off the lead by that time and out of contention for the win (especially with the TT on stage 20).
    And if everything written above proves to be fantasy, then I’ll go with Roglic for the win.

    • “The only thing worse than G going downhill is Movistar’s tactics”

      Er, Zakarin going downhill?

27. Let’s be honest, except if Froome crashes out, he’s going to win, there’s no doubt about it. For whatever reason, fatigue isn’t a problem for him (I have my ideas as to why that is, but this isn’t the post for it). He’ll take the jersey either on stage 3 or in the first mountain stage and then the Sky train will kill the race. He’ll only have to follow them.

    Last year, he had less time to recover between the Tour and the Vuelta and on his only bad day, lost about 20 seconds. Everyone that tried to do 2 GTs had at least one bad day that ended their chances of winning.

    Since his announcement that he would ride the Giro towards the end of last year and even more since the news of his positive test came out, I’ve had a feeling that he’ll go for the GT treble this year (Portal spoke about it after the Vuelta last year) and I also think he’ll go for the World Championships. And I honestly think he’ll win both as well.

    • The treble is an interesting idea but talking about it would make anyone who did a fool on the day he failed. The world champs is a non-starter as his one day form is just as absent from his palmares as his grand tour form is present. For me, Froome best quality is not his climbing, ITT or strong team: its his ability to recover. Its why grand tours are his major strength.

      • Veering wildly off topic now, but who is the protected name out of Froome, G, the Yates bros, for the worlds – maybe they all ride for TGH…

        • Wouldn’t be surprised if it was a Yates. I’d be amazed if Froome even took part.

      • The thing about going for the trifecta is that you’ve nothing to lose: say Froome wins the Giro and the Tour and then ends up bimbling around Spain coming in 24th – it would still be an incredible season.
        I don’t think it can be done and I don’t think he can win a one day race, but otherwise my feelings are very much aligned with those of Gargatouf.

28. Rigoberto Uran has been the quietest

29. No predictions from me, just hopes: No nasty incidents caused by so-called fans. An exciting race raced to win rather than not to lose.
    As an unabashed Italo-phile I’d like to see Nibali on the top step in Paris again. If not Nibali, Uran. If not Uran, Bardet or Barquil or Quintana would be a nice change.
    In the “anybody but Froome/SKY” category I’d be happy enough with Dumoulin or even Yates.
    Vive LeTour!

    • I agree with you Larry, no nasty crashes or incidents brought on by other then natural occurrences
      or acts of god unrelated to humans.

30. Hoping for Uran and Bardet to both fare ‘OK’ or ‘better than expected’ in the TTT and then go all out on the Roubaix stage.

    Dreaming, but not impossible.

31. For Valverde – Are we counting 2013 World Championships as a tactical error?

    • Huge disappointment (with Purito crying on the podium as proof), but mainly down to a lack of legs on AV’s part. Maybe Valverde could have spoken up if he knew he was not good for the finale, but neither Rodriguez nor anyone else was surprised that he did not.

      While we’re here I’d criticize him a bit for the Dusseldorf crash too. Accidents happen, but job #1 in a rainy prologue is to make sure they don’t. The severity of the injury was surely bad luck though.

      • Plus countless races – it used to be a habit – where he’d refuse to work with others in any way at the end of races, resulting in the chase being killed, the rider out front winning and Valverde winning the sprint – usually for second or third. See: a lot of one-day races 2013-15.

    • Or Dan Martin’s Lombardy, or any other time Valverde lost because of not chasing and expect others to tow him to a sprint.

32. This TdF is definitely stacked to the brim with talent, fatigue is going to play a big role this year, I would love for Nibali to win another tour, and if not hopefully the colombians can wrestle the win away.

33. Froome’s a curious case. He’s won the last three GTs and arguably not been at his best in any of them. My gut feeling was that he was better in last years Vuelta than Tour, and in the Giro he clearly started undercooked and peaked late, so it doesn’t feel impossible that he will have decent form. I think it probably helps him that there is a bit of an aura about him now, even more so after the Giro. The riders he’s facing either have bad experiences of racing against him, or else inexperience.

    But… four in a row? The Giro/Tour double?

    Well, if he does it he will surely deserve his place as one of the greatest GT riders of all time.

34. I just hope all the contenders and all riders have a safe and good race and there is no side plot of some roadside nutter with a grudge!

35. I do think Froome will succumb to fatigue and not win this Tour.

36. Although I think the first 10 days will see Froome/Sky in a fairly commanding lead I think Landa is being largely under-rated. If he comes out of the all that fairly unscathed in terms of time, he could be Froome’s biggest challenger. He looked like the best climber last year and although it has been said that he works better as an understudy that has also hampered him: he’d almost certainly have come 2nd in the Giro where he came third and who knows what he could have done in last year’s Tour (and that was after doing the Giro). Done nothing this year, but that’s not always a bad sign. Horrible time trialist, but it is lumpy.

37. Reading through these comments, one thing is clear: the vast majority of us would be far more likely to be more entertained by the race if it wasn’t for the strong likelihood of the TTT ruling out a lot of riders on stage 3.
    Seeing a GC rider taking a load of time over his rivals on the cobbles or in a strong crosswind is exciting – seeing them take that time with the help of their uber-strong team in a TTT just isn’t.
    A strong team helps riders enough as it is – including on cobbles and in crosswinds – a long TTT tilts the balance too much.
    Sadly, a defensive procession by Sky is probably the most likely outcome for the mountains and, unless one’s only interest in cycling is seeing a certain rider win, that’s not going to be interesting to watch.

    • I never understand where you are going with this criticism. It is a TEAM sport. Complaining the best team wins is perverse. Would you never have any TTT ever again?

      • A strong team helps riders enough as it is – a long TTT tilts the balance too much.
        I can’t explain it any better than that.
        A strong team helps you in the mountains, on the flat, in every situation.
        It’s not only a team sport – otherwise every stage would be a TTT.
        I’d quite happily never a TTT again – just my opinion.

38. Many thanks INRNG, interesting and entertaining summary as usual.
    To me picking Froome is too easy. It’s like picking the All Blacks to win at Eden Park. History predicts a win. Perhaps this year the pave on stage nine and the potential for echelons and splits prior to that make it more like picking the All Blacks to win when on tour – chances slightly reduced but Froome’s past results, experience and ability across climbs, descents and TTs mean he’s still the favourite.
    What keeps me interested is thinking in terms of:
    What would have to happen for Froome to falter at the TdF this year?
    Is that likely to happen?
    If that does happen who is likely to win instead?
    Putting aside crashes and illness, which I wouldn’t wish on any rider, I can’t see Froome losing through being worked over by Porte, Quintana, Landa, Bardet and Uran on the climbs – the TTT and TT provide insurance against any losses there. More likely (although not necessarily probable!) is that he loses time on one or two of the first nine stages. That said, I think Porte, Quintana and Landa, among others, are equally or more likely to do the same. So, in picking from the field against Froome, I’ll go with Dumoulin to emerge from under the radar after stage nine and defend a lead over the chaotic efforts of other GC contenders to win. Bardet and Valverde for second and third, capitalising on their Classics experience and descending skills. Nibali and Uran to round out the top five. In the highly unlikely event we get that sort of result it’ll probably have been interesting getting there…

39. The Crane of Tatarstan.

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