Tour de France Stage 17 Preview

The chance for the sprinters. The way many stages have been ridden there’s a chance of breakaway.

Pas un peintre, Paret-Peintre: the stage refused to submit to the siesta, early breakaway attempts didn’t work until Marco Haller towed team mate Marc Hirschi away with Xandro Meurisse. The trio looked doomed.

But despite UAE trying to close down the race others resisted. In fact because UAE tried, several riders revolted. Among them Ivan Romeo and mid-stage a new 35 rider breakaway barged clear. Behind the peloton eased up and while Nils Politt still chasing he was alone in the role.

The 35 rider group had little cohesion. Julian Alaphilippe attacked, taking team mate Matteo Trentin with him along with Pascal Eenkhoorn, Enrico Mas, Simone Velasco, Fred Wright, Thymen Arensman and Jonas Abrahamsen. Behind everyone missed the move but seemed unable to resolve this.

Reaching Bédoin Mont Ventoux was visible and seemingly so was a second win for Arensman. Only he started to wilt on the early slopes. Mas attacked early and gradually took time, with over 40 seconds at the Chalet Reynard, his piercing gaze and focus as visible as his taut muscles.

But by this time the gap behind Mas wasn’t so much with Arensman and Alaphilippe but a gaggle of climbers in Ben Healy, Valentin Paret-Peintre, Santiago Buitrago and Michael Woods were closing in.

Normally Paret-Peintre would have been pacing Remco Evenepoel but without the team leader he was racing for himself. He tried to exploit the steepest slopes to shake the rest but it did not work. With hindsight no bad thing as Ben Healy was out to take time for a top-10 bid. The two rode past Enric Mas.

All this time the gap behind was closing. Jonas Vingegaard would attack four times, aided by collecting riders from the breakaway who could take brief pulls, more than symbolic given the speed they were travelling.

All this came to a frenzy with Paret-Peintre and Healy trading attacks. Both with elbows bent as if one arm longer than other, backs bunch hunched like in some Quasimodo , two geeks duking it out.

Behind Vingegaard and Pogačar made their moves and not in isolation as the yellow jersey was bearing down on the lead two.

Suddenly Ilan Van Wilder appeared from nowhere and towed the lead group, nobody on TV saw it coming and Paret-Peintre did not know either. Ben Healy went early and coming around the final bend he seemed to stay out of the saddle and not change gear. Paret-Peintre was able to sit down and select a lower gear which allowed him to dart up the final ramp for the win.

France gets its first stage win of the Tour avoiding the dreaded 1926 and 1999 scenarios, in part because one dull December day a postal driver opened their van door without looking and took out an Olympic champion. But sport, like life, is full of these random chains.

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Paret-Peintre now has a Giro and Tour stage to his name and you’d not bet against him winning in the Vuelta on a double-digit goat path ascent. He’s so light – his team jersey is size XXS – that he’s suited to these gradients and it’s why he was trying to attack on the steep parts and could make the different on the last ramp up to the finish.

In the end Pogačar took two seconds on Vingegaard. But we’re not in Rouen any more and he looked pale and less talkative. Vingegaard was beaten again but paradoxically the defeat was so mild there’s a sense of reversal in the air. Answers tomorrow at the Col de la Loze.

The Route: 160km and 1,650m of vertical gain. It’s gradually uphill out of Bollène and the early climb of the Col de l’Aspre is gentle. This sets the scene for the day, the climbs are on wide roads with no traps. There are hillier roads in the area but this sticks to flatter ones, sticking to valley floors where possible. The Pertuis climb is steady.

The final 40km are flat and the roads get bigger and bigger, if teams are still chasing the breakaway they’ll find roads to suit on the way to Chabeuil and out to Valence.

The Finish: flat and big wide roads. The Tour has been to Valence in recent years and traversed the city but this time it stays on the periphery to stick to wide roads, presumably for the sake of safety. There’s one gentle bend to the left with 700m to go.

The Contenders: a big day for Lidl-Trek, they’ve got a stage win already and the next goal is the green jersey. Jonathan Milan is on 251 points with Tadej Pogačar on 240 so the intermediate sprint (20 points) and the finish (50 points) are a chance to get ahead. Advantage Pogačar in the Alps, of course but the intermediate sprints tomorrow and the day after come very early to help Milan. So it’s not today or bust. The real issue is form, he’s launched moves that he couldn’t see through in recent days.

Tim Merlier (Soudal-Quickstep) is the quickest, each time he’s gone up against Milan in a sprint contest he’s won. Today’s course has climbs he just won’t like but enough recover time.

Kaden Groves (Alpecin-Deceuninck) gets the keys to the team but without Mathieu van der Poel.

With fatigue there’s plenty of room for a surprise so hallo Phil Bauhaus (Bahrain). Biniam Girmay (Intermarché-Wanty) is on the tricky second album after his string of hits last summer. Arnaud De Lie (Lotto) won’t like the dragstrip finish. Dylan Groenewegen (Jayco) is a harder pick as he’s not shone on the expected days. Stian Fredheim (Uno-X) and Paul Penhoët (Groupama-FDJ) hard picks still.

One exception is Arnaud Démare (Arkéa-B&B Hotels) who is suited to the flat finish and after doing team work for Vauquelin this is the swansong.

The breakaway does have a chance here. Today is the last chance for the sprinters so several teams have a shared interest a sprint finish. But far from all and teams with lesser-rated sprinters don’t have be pall bearers to their own finish line funeral, they ought to spare a rider or two for moves which in turn relieves them from having to chase. If Kasper Agsreen (EF) is wearing an aero helmet then be warned.

Merlier, Milan
Bauhaus, Asgreen, Groves, Démare
Girmay, Van Aert, Meuus, Lund, Garcia Cortina

Weather: 28°C and the chance of rain or a thunderstorm later.

TV: KM0 is at 1.50pm. Tune in early to see if there’s a scrap to go clear. Then again around the intermediate sprint at 2.50pm to see if things spice up once this is done or if not… the finish is forecast for 5.20pm CEST

Postcard from Marsanne
Today’s stage tackles the Col de Tartaiguille, a modest climb but scenic if you’re in area. It’s one of several places where this year’s route overlaps with the 1984 route. It featured on Stage 15 then and yesterday and today with the same route out of Marsanne. If you think Pogačar and his team are having a dominant time at the Tour, read on about the 1984 vintage…

Laurent Fignon won the race overall. His Renault-Elf team took the team prize. They took ten of the 23 stages: Fignon won three time trials, two mountain stages and they won the team time trial together. There were also stage wins for Renault riders Marc Madiot, Pacsal Jules, Pascal Poisson and P-H Menthéour. There could have been more as Fignon was second three times. Fignon had the yellow jersey for seven stages but only after his team mate Vincent Barteau wore it for 12 stages. Renault had another rider on the podium in Paris with debutant Greg LeMond taking the white jersey too. Fignon’s winning margin was ten minutes and there’s not been a wider margin since.

This looked utterly dominant at the time but 1984 was the high point for Fignon, he struggled to repeat and like several of Cyrille Guimard’s protégés he got tendonitis and chronic knee injuries.

The absolute record in a grand tour is the 1977 Vuelta where Freddy Maertens won 13 stages and the overall, and his team mate Michel Pollentier obliged with another.

77 thoughts on “Tour de France Stage 17 Preview”

  1. What a stage. Thank you Ben Healy for being the most courageous and combative rider today – it is a pleasure to watch an athlete leaving it all on the mountain. Thanks to Enric Mas as well for the long-awaited brave attack at the base of the climb.

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    • On the other end of the race but also deserving of most combative was Thomas Gachignard, sick and dropped from the start, he still finished the stage in the time limit!

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      • At one point I noted he was about 10 minutes down on the Pogačar group (about 16 down on the break at that point, but I always feel the time behind the group who will climb fastest is more realistic when assessing chances) with 30 or 40km of flat being ridden at 50km/h by the leaders plus the climb to come – at that point I thought he was doomed. So he did a fantastic ride to end up last on stage, but more or less with the autos. Chapeau!

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  2. Politt’s behaviour was arrogant, unwise and unpleasant, and gave an insight into the mafia culture of some procycling. He and his team are strong now though some day they’ll need friends. After yesterday friends might be harder to find.

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    • Politt was under pressure. UAE and Visma have forced every other team to find the breakaway on the hard days, the non-sprint days. The size and power of the breaks in this Tour are unprecedented in my memory, which spans some twenty years of cycling. Incredible riders are seeking to break up the race early so they can set the finish to their liking. The suicidal breakaways, even the controllable breakaways, are over. The break and the peloton are now evenly matched, I can understand why the German lost composure in his lone battle against the field. Not saying he was justified or right. But he was in a situation to seemingly designed to crack him.

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      • It is noticeable that UAE can not keep the breakaway within range for Pogacar to win the stage on the final climb. This is the second time it has happened. Politt is a little under pressure since he has the job of pulling the peloton on the flat.

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      • I think Politt is a bit unlucky here…

        Firstly people make mistakes and should be allowed to apologise if so without us all judging something said in the heat of a stage.

        Secondly we as fans can misunderstand in peloton disputes etc.

        Personally I’d give him the benefit of the doubt on this occasion but each to their own.

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    • It was. It is also by no means unprecedented neither in this sport nor others when a general dominance presents the opportunity. That occurs with otherwise nice people as well as those we might more naturally characterise as not so nice. Humanity.

      Politt being the originator of the story about the existence of UAE’s or Pogi’s blacklist may make it that much less likely that some others will take less kindly to having him try to dictate to them. He failed conspicuously and publicly yesterday.

      Was that failure punishment enough? Perhaps, though I have some sympathy with McCrossan’s view on commentary that it might be deserving of a yellow card. See also some of Milan’s antics earlier in this race. If one of the things the UCI is concerned about with its card system is protecting the image of the sport then this could qualify.

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    • It happens with teams filtering but Politt bit off more than he can chew, trying to ride down moves alone… but tiring himself out and exposing that nobody else on the team could take over just let a big move go clear. It’s been interesting as a side issue to see several big teams just unable to control things at times, their plans backfiring.

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      • I see this as one of the potentially interesting plot points for tomorrow. I expect UAE to be very switched on, but they have shown occasional weakness when things start to turn chaotic. The tough part for Visma and the rest of the peloton is that the entire UAE team save Pog could drop out tonight and he would still be favored to keep the jersey.

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  3. A great stage to watch! All the attacks being traded on both fronts, the two giants closing in on the poker-playing duo in front and hte “deus ex machina” Van Wilder showing up, great drama.
    Visma played everything right tactically but there’s no point in having relay riders if you can’t get a gap first. Pogacar not able to drop Jonas in the counter-attack gives some hope for the competition, but it’s a very different thing from losing 4 minutes. He said in post-race interviews he didn’t want to go full out into the red, but preferred to save and defend. Given his avarice and an iconic win opportuinity ahead, that seems unlikely, but perhaps his earlier defeats to JV have made him cautious.

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    • The charitable view is that a rider can learn from his past overenthusiasms and their consequences. Glory hunters chase everything and live or die by that method. The maturing, professional rider learns when to go all out and when to hold what you’ve got.

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  4. I have seen two or three people suggesting “Pog is starting to struggle now”. They are seeing things I am not seeing if so. Jonas tried again and again to drop him, with coordinated team help, but so far in this Tour he simply hasn’t seemed to have what it takes to do so. Its not the same the other way around, of course, because Pog doesn’t have to drop him anymore (and does every finish line anyway). He only has to stay with him or nullify his efforts. Jonas is now very comfortable in second so nothing to lose there so I guess it will be more of the same tomorrow and Friday. But I expect this maturing Pog who is learning to sometimes ride more defensively/conservatively to hold station once more and do the professional job.

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    • TP doesn’t tire anymore. Not since ‘23 Worlds when he complained the race was one lap too long. Gianetti discover z2 training and now Pogs is a machine, like the Death Star, devouring the field and any rebel alliance with someone on the Black List within.

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      • My wife has to be one of the greatest adversaries of z2 training. With this method so prevalent I’m now off to a 4h z2 ride every Sunday morning, while with HIIT training I would have been home 3 hours earlier :).

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      • Sorry –

        As far as I understand the famous Z2 training was Pog LAST trainer not his current regime.

        The prioritised Z2 training (I’m happy to be corrected if wrong) was what failed him in 22/23 which caused the revision to include much harder efforts along with heat training.

        So the Z2 programme has been debunked in my eyes. Pog was likely able to best Vin in those years *(in my opinion, willing to be castigated) but not on pure talent as he’d won previously and the renewed training focus is what’s brought us PogMK2 in ‘24.

        As far as I understand Z2 is just good for ‘keeping up regular training’ but not for reaching the heights of performance.

        A final controversial opinion – I think the broken wrist was not what cost Pog the ‘23 Tour and Vin would’ve won anyway as Pog had yet to dial in his training.

        If Vin turns around this Tour though I’ll be forced to revise some of the above opinions.

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        • Pogacar himself has said that there has been little change in his training in the last two years: all pro-cyclists do a lot of zone 2 training and they always have, mixed with some other types of effort. In my opinion, he is just a bit older and coming into his peak.

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          • Pog says a lot of stuff… he might brush it off but as far as I can see that’s more his general demeanour making light of something or even playing it down to retain a competitive advantage:

            To be clear – his first trainer was Inigo San Milan who preached Z2, his new trainer is Javier Soler one of the current best coaches in cycling.

            He might say there’s been little change but from everything I’ve heard this is not true. There was a big change and the results bear it out.

            It’s not just Pog launching more decisive attacks, nor just maturing, nor the seated position, nor the cherry juice etc etc – all may help but the dramatic increase in his numbers during 2024 point to the new trainer/regime being the big difference maker. My opinion is he was previously riding on pure talent and now has hit his peak with renewed training focus followed the defeats to Jonas.

          • I too think he has changed his training. The defeat in the Combloux TT in 2023 led to several changes, including his coach as oldDave says and Sola also changed Pogačar’s position with more focus on his time trialling too. Small things but all the same an improvement, Pogačar in 2024 is better than 2023 and in part because of these changes; and we see more of this now with his seated accelerations.

          • Preaching Z2 doesn´t preclude giving one´s riders plenty of Z4 and Z5.

            I can easily accept that Pogacar´s training has changed – and resulted in great improvement in performance – but from what I gather we don´t really know all that well what he did and what he did not do when he was coached by Iñigo San Millán.

            And I’m pretty sure that the picture painted of training that consists of a huge amount of Z2 and very little of anything else is nothing but a crude caricature.
            https://x.com/doctorinigo/status/1832895888273870889

          • Absolutely @Wednesday – I’m not saying his previous regime was only Z2, I’m just saying it improved in ’24 but obviously I cannot say the specifics of how. The Z2 thing just got the most press at the time so has become and easy conversation piece.

      • I don’t know how his training has changed (I suspect heat training has been incorporated) but what is quite noticeable is aero discipline in the climbs. He stays seated and compact more, with jersey zipped up and sunglasses on.

        But in all this discussion of ’22 and ’23, I think it’s easy to forget that he was 23-24. The last couple of years — possibly not over yet — might just have been the steep part of his performance improvement curve (which, in that sense anyway, would make him like most cyclists of that age.)

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    • I thought there were some tells from Pogacar, but they were subtle – a grimace on his face, gasping for air at times, a slightly tenser posture on the bike. He looked like he wasn’t enjoying it as much as normal…but then he never moved more than about 6 inches from Vingegaard’s back wheel, so not exactly signs of cracking! It’s hard to see how Vingegaard takes 4 seconds back from Pogacar, let alone 4 minutes.

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      • I’m not being sarcastic but I chuckled at the thought that someone might be “gasping for air” whilst setting the fastest ever recorded ascent of Mont Ventoux and this being seen as a slight sign of weakness rather than a sign of unimaginable effort 🙂

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        • Fair point, but it’s the first time in the race that we’ve seen Pogacar gasping for air whilst sat in the wheel of Vingegaard – he’s normally breathing through his nose when Vingegaard is on the front. Perhaps Vingegaard was on a super day and so was a match for Pogacar, or perhaps it’s a small sign of Pogacar’s form starting to slip…we’ll find out over the next few days

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          • It really looks ridiculous that Pogacar is able to follow Vingegaard attacks while staying seated. That’s probably down to some miracle z5+6 intervals to break down the z2 template.

    • The Jonas fan in me wonders if he was testing Tadej today sizing up opportunities to attack tomorrow.

      The Tadej fan in me thinks he countered just enough to know what to do tomorrow if put under pressure.

      Although I suspect 4 minutes is enough to ensure victory on Sunday, tomorrow and Friday will be needed to confirm.

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    • I have to say I agree with you here, it feels like people are seeing what they want to see re. Pogacar’s demeanour. He responded to every single attack without even getting out of the saddle, didn’t appear to be rocking and rolling at any point, and his jersey remained zipped up the whole way, and was able to put a few seconds into Vingegaard when he launched his sprint at the end … I definitely didn’t see him “gasping”, and I’ll afford any cyclist one sole grimace when going up Ventoux, Vingegaard definitely had more than one during his attacks.

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      • When Pogacar attacked at the Dauphine, and on the Hautacam, he immediately dropped Vingegaard and then just rode away. Today, when Pogacar attacked (first time), Vingegaard stayed on his wheel before countering. I think there is a difference to what happened earlier in the race.

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        • I agree there’s a difference; I think a big chunk of that is that he doesn’t need to take time now. I think it’s fair to say that Pogacar’s initial attack seemed more of a “Might as well have a go” rather than “All in”, whereas on Hautacam he threw everything at Vingegaard in one go. He doesn’t need to take more time now whereas he did earlier in the race, and it’s far more sensible for him now to keep within his limits and I think he knows that. Two back to back big stages to come, why take any risks?

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  5. The 1984 Tour also the first women’s edition with Marianne Martin.
    Fignon was my first idol in the sport, met him once during the Worlds in Marid back in 2005. Polite and very friendly towards an old fan (or perhaps my UCI commissaire’s uniform 😉)
    As a Dane, happy to see Mr. INRNG include Lund in the 1 chainring bracket. He is improving but would probably prefer a slightly rising finish. I don’t see him match Merlier or Milan on ure speed yet.

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      • Yesterday was the first stage when Oscar Onley lost time with those around him, not much about 30 seconds ish. It was the day after a rest day when riders often struggle, hopefully not a portent for the stages to come.

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        • Onley lost time to Lipowitz and Roglic but gained time on Vauquelin and Gall. Maybe he should abandon dreams of a podium which should be Lipowitz’s and defend against Roglic to maintain his current fourth. In any event anywhere in the GC top five would be a fine result.

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  6. ‘…like several of Cyrille Guimard’s protégés he got tendonitis and chronic knee injuries.’

    What was the cause of this? Poor training methods? Over-training?

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  7. Lots of new record times up Ventoux so it was fast and furious and all to no avail for Visma. (unless the fatigue gets to Pogacar)
    VPP a surprise winner for QS but good for them after Remco’s early departure.
    I guess not a big breakaway today (if at all) as the sprint teams want one last chance.

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    • The way these transition stages have been ridden I’ve been wondering if today will be a breakaway day. But many teams have sprinters to back and the course is relatively easy to control things on. Ideally though teams without the obvious name sprinters fire riders forward in moves so they don’t have to chase but even that’s not obvious when you look around for riders to do this, eg would Bahrain send Wright in the move or is he tired from yesterday and they want to help Bauhaus, would GFDJ want Madouas up the road or is he useful to Penhoët etc

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      • Lidl-Trek has a lot riding on this stage for the green jersey, so it should be a sprint. The team hasn’t look well organized lately and Milan seemed tired, but here they just have to go all in, especially when Paris might not be a sprint this year.

        I feel like Pogacar might get more competition from Martinez and Arensman for the polka dots than for green if he really wants to make an attempt at getting all three jerseys.

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    • “All to no avail for Visma”

      You could be right. But I think for Visma, the aim is to tire Pogacar out over the three weeks until he suddenly cracks. And this is part of the softening-up process. They seem happy with how the stage went, and believe in their chances if they keep the pressure up. The two big alpine stages coming up are where we will see if the strategy is a success.

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  8. This Tour’s GC race is starting to feel a bit like 2015… there’s one absolutely dominant rider for the first 2 weeks, who in the final week starts to show signs of fatigue and illness, and by the final stage in the Alps is hanging on by his fingernails(?)

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      • More speculations. If an “ill” or “fatigued” Pogacar can set a record time on Mont Ventoux then Jonas must be hoping he isn’t recovered before Sunday.

        Sometimes I think people just see the stand out performance and then think the same rider must be in trouble if he doesn’t then reproduce it every time thereafter. Which is obviously incorrect thinking.

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        • People often see what they want to see. I don’t know what others were seeing, but I never saw Pog under serious duress, and the only “weakness” he showed was not being able to drop Jonas while remaining in the saddle. I thought he could have gone for the stage win, and maybe the fact that he didn’t shows maturity. But I would be absolutely gobsmacked if he loses a second to Jonas by Paris.

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      • The stage was deliberately sandwiched between a rest day and a transition day, with a nice flat run-in to help them get their speed up. Even the weather was obedient.

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    • I like comments that seemed primed for ‘I told you so’ despite going off very little!

      You may well be right come Sunday – but as it stands the only hint of weakness from Pog was not being able to drop Jonas, which is a change but may have been down to the headwind rather than dwindling power. It feels either a big leap to pull up 2015 or some at least wishful contrarian thinking but if it proves to be right I guess we’ll all bow to your powers of foresight even if it would seem to be a lucky guess to me!

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  9. If it does come down to a bunch sprint can Dainese or Ackerman surprise against a tired peloton? Both can complete the grand tour stage trilogy here if so.

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    • The trilogy is an achievement and you’ve got to be a good rider to get it. Seeing those two names makes me think it would be interesting to see a list of those current riders who have two of the three, split into three groups – those who need France, Italy and Spain respectively – and if there is a noticeable difference in quality between them. Scanning the lists of stage winners at this race year-by-year is another indication to me of why this race is no.1 in terms of the very best riders in the peloton bringing their A-game.

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      • Interesting point, I would assume that on average the Tour is the hardest hurdle but it’s also the GT that the best riders ride the most times so perhaps not. Groves can also achieve it today btw so that’s extra motivation for him.

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  10. “Suddenly Ilan Van Wilder appeared from nowhere and towed the lead group, nobody on TV saw it coming and Paret-Peintre did not know either.”
    I didn’t get the chance to watch the race live so watched highlights – these show a moto passing Van Wilder just before he joins the leaders. I’ve been waiting to hear the cry of foul play by Healy fans…

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    • The upper part suited him more with lower gradients but it was still a surprise to see him there. Looking at photos you can see he was behind chasing but nothing more, especially on a climb with so many people each with a phone it’s hard for anyone to do anything sneaky.

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    • A reason? Two. First is hosting fees. The Tour used to be very reliant on these and so more stages meant more towns and so more fees. The race then wasn’t the slick business we see today, it had a lot of small sponsors rather than a core of big name backers and the TV rights were not so valuable either so income from towns mattered. But the amount of these split stages were shrinking, riders had protested against them.

      The other is rest days, 1984 only had one which was normal at the time, having two in a grand tour only became a fixture this century.

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  11. Another sprint, another crash in a sprint final 😔 Maybe not much more than Bittner getting squeezed on a wet road where on the one hand he had every right to try and keep his leadout’s wheel but on the other he has brakes on his bike. It didn’t appear to be a major factor but I’d like to know why the parcours was so narrow as they approached the kite when there appeared to be plenty of extra road available to the left.

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    • There’s no road on the left… ironically there’s a cycle path. This is separated from the road by a small raised divider. As mentioned above the race normally finishes in Valence but this time stayed on the bigger roads outside.

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      • It didn’t seem like the road thinning caused the crash though?

        I didn’t think this was the worst crash in the world, we obviously want to minimise crashes but with the best will in the world I don’t know how you stop every crash – even if today’s could maybe be made less likely by heavy use of disqualifications for riders pushing each other during a sprint.

        Total aside – but it’s interesting to hear of riders lobbying *(understandably) for better safety but when there’s disqualifications for headbutts and sprint pushes often you hear riders say it’s just racing.

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        • Doesn’t everybody agree that headbutting is beyond the pale? I can’t remember a rider saying they didn’t deserve punishment after being sanctioned for throwing the head in. Happy to be shown otherwise.

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          • It happens in almost every sprint so I don’t think there’s a particularly clear feeling against it in the peloton – which may be a good reason why it’s rarely sanctioned as policing something so prevalent becomes difficult.

            I also think it’s not unusual for riders to defend the actions of disqualified riders – even today on TNT Robbie McEwan clearly said he didn’t want to attribute blame while there was clear use of heads, and whilst that’s no defence it shows the general feeling as a riders often know there’s more to any of these incidents than we can see (ie a choice elbow long before or similar). And as far as I know today’s incident wasn’t even looked at for a sanction?

            So all in all it’s a tough one… I’m not disagreeing with the current system as I don’t know enough.

            But I would like things to be done about rider safety – it’s just not good enough what we’re currently seeing with rider fatalities in recent years – if getting stern on headbutts was part of an overall package to improve rider safety I’d be all in favour.

            Personally though I’d put gutters high on the list also, avoiding them or using straw or similar to make them safer – thinking back to Van Vleuten and Geraint’s crash in Rio then Jonas’ crash last year and I believe a larger gutter was part of Gino Mader’s death, it feels like something the sport worth looking at.

            Along with lowering speeds somehow, something with motos *(although as someone who works in film suggestions to use drone footage are poorly informed and impossible logistically), stringent disqualifications for sprint mishaps, and maybe some out of the box ideas – is there any kind of extreme lightweight body protection that might help riders?

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