Thanks

Sunday, 23 October 2011

Mirror

Here's looking at you

A quick note of thanks to you, the reader. This blog is what it is in large part thanks to the comments, emails and twitter that go with it.

During the year many have emailed in questions and suggestions and I now have a lengthy “to do” list for subjects over the winter. I’ve still got plenty of my own ideas, there’s plenty to reflect on this evening, from Geox to GCP, from Tour Down Under to next year’s new Tour of Norway.

But if there’s anything you’d like to see on here, then please leave a comment or send in an email. I can’t promise to cover everything but give it a try. Now that the season is finished the flow of news and events to comment on is bound to dry up so any new ideas are always well received.

A note of thanks to the the advertisers Competitive Cyclist. Like other supporters of the blog this year, their support is also another element that makes this blog happen so feel free to click on the image up there and see what they’ve got for sale besides Sidi shoes.

Darren October 23, 2011 at 9:05 pm

Quick thanks to the blogger! Your site filled a noticable hole in my race cycling reading material…and one I can interact with other than to just click on that ubiquitous Like button!!! Looking forward to the next season with you!

John B October 23, 2011 at 11:27 pm

Also thanks to you, inrng, whoever you may be, for this very interesting blog. Love to read it. One of the best cycling blogs.

Bartek October 24, 2011 at 12:40 am

Myself being a fresh addition to inrng reader community thanking you as well for interesting entries and plenty of news I can share during Sunday rides.

gmparris October 24, 2011 at 1:49 am

Just like the rest of the readers, thanks to the blogger!!! This is a great site with real insight. Just like Darren said, this fills a really big hole in my cycling reading. Great job!!!

Jared October 24, 2011 at 2:53 am

Way to have attracted some of the most well informed readers! I enjoy the comments as much as the blog entries.

Balvindar October 24, 2011 at 4:10 am

We’ll always have the Interwebs.

Thank you.

jza October 24, 2011 at 4:58 am

Easily the best cycling commentary on the web. Thank YOU!

leif October 24, 2011 at 5:07 am

110 percent dood!

Daniel Moszkowicz (TKofC) October 24, 2011 at 7:39 am

This is a moderate-quality blog on professional cycling produced by a person likely to have reached only a secondary level of education. I have tended to find this blog a little rushed ever since the World Champs post, the mistakes being a clear and often glaring example of a lack of focus which occurs when one is rushed, for instance. So, perhaps my suggestion would be to give a little more time and therefore thought to what you are furnishing the reader by going over your post with a more methodical approach prior to pressing the publish icon.

Also, using a mirror pic as you have done for this post is inaccurate as you cannot be this mirror unless you regard yourself as some kind of lord or overseer reflecting us the reader, and so since the reader looking into a mirror will only see his/her own reflection, it is hardly as you put it, you looking at us, but the reader looking at him/herself. Elementary mistake my dear chap. You would have been far better advised by including a framed picture of yourself with that famous “Casablanca” line, suggesting that you are taking the time to be looking out at us, with your thanks, which is appropriate.

Cheers,
Daniel Moszkowicz (TKofC)

woody October 24, 2011 at 8:37 am

for someone who has never raced it is always interesting to read about issues from someone much closer to the source. Keep it up.

The Inner Ring October 24, 2011 at 9:11 am

Thanks for the words of thanks but if you have any suggestions, please let me know. I’ve had one email about what riders get up to in the off season, I’ll try to put something about this soon.

Nick October 24, 2011 at 9:15 am

There’s one in every crowd isn’t there.

Rather than a private email with the constructive (read: patronising) criticism Daniel has to play the keyboard warrior and try to make a name for himself.

Well done Inner. You ask questions and explore topics that mainstream media cannot/will not, I applaud you. Looking forward to more of the same in 2012.

Patrick October 24, 2011 at 9:23 am

Please don’t take “Daniel’s” advice!

jimbo October 24, 2011 at 9:29 am

Can’t disagree with daniel more. Best cycling blog on the web and the source of endless new info for me. Keep up the good work and I look forward to what the new season brings.

Daniel Moszkowicz (TKofC) October 24, 2011 at 10:27 am

Nick, I think I know, but what kind of “one” is there in every crowd according to you, exactly?

Cheers,
Daniel Moszkowicz (TKofC)

cwardy October 24, 2011 at 10:33 am

Daniel, I can only conclude that you are trying to be humerous otherwise you are very rude and ‘off line’.

Daniel Moszkowicz (TKofC) October 24, 2011 at 11:08 am

cwardy; I didn’t know that offering an opinion as I have here exhibits evidence of rudeness, but I would understand that someone who makes such an obvious spelling mistake with humour, and compounds this with using such a word as ‘off line’ to suggest my somehow being ‘out-of-line’ — is someone whom takes an approach to such things with a definite struggling nature, to put it mildly.

Your conclusion is therefore entirely innacurate.

Cheers,
Daniel Moszkowicz (TKofC)

936ADL October 24, 2011 at 11:08 am

TKofC,

I’d suggest you go trolling elsewhwere, and leave this blog for those who enjoy it.

jim October 24, 2011 at 11:35 am

https://twitter.com/#!/TrollKingofChat

Not very many followers.

vanL October 24, 2011 at 11:42 am

Daniel – Please go back to the other websites you frequent.

ave October 24, 2011 at 11:48 am

It’s one of the first websites I check every day. I hope you can keep this level for long!

Daniel Moszkowicz (TKofC) October 24, 2011 at 12:10 pm

jim, I’m very disappointed with how many followers I presently have on Twitter, I should have never “blocked” the 77,248 I had some time ago to leave so few.

936ADL, I enjoy this blog also, so your inference that I don’t is rejected in its entirety. I’m beyond your internet description of trolling, underling.

vanL, what makes you think I don’t? Ha-ha! I just went back to one before returning here. Did you mean perhaps I should go to the other websites I frequent and never come back to this one? Is that what you meant you little duncer?

Cheers,
Daniel Moszkowicz (TKofC)

Bhatmamnet October 24, 2011 at 12:32 pm

Fantastic Work Inner. Thanks for your updates on each race. Good updates on Non-race topics also. Enjoyed your blog. It’s in my favourites.

karsten October 24, 2011 at 12:46 pm

when reading Daniel’s comments one should imagine ones voice to be muffled, as one clearly has ones head up ones own arse.

(first level education)

Wade Wallace October 24, 2011 at 12:59 pm

Love your work Inring. Keep asking (and answering) the questions that many of us don’t even think of. That’s what I love about your blog.

cwardy October 24, 2011 at 1:53 pm

I can only suggest that Daniel starts his own blog where he can wax lyrical at length to himself as I am sure nobody would reach his standards of perfection.
Thank you for correcting my diction and standards of english.

Daniel Moszkowicz (TKofC) October 24, 2011 at 2:15 pm

cwardy, the internet is my blog and I am the highest-ranked at the moment. I’m sure though if I were to open a ‘wordpress’ or ‘blogger’-style blog I could attract a large proportion of dunces and dullards who would seek to find an opening in my defence where clearly there is none, and never has been.

When facing such a small and confined sample of who you are, I will exploit your weaknesses and clearly you have several, but naturally I acknowledge that you are thanking me for doing so, I suppose you are working on yourself with some dear commitment, and thus welcome my highlight. But since you can only offer one thing in reply, after only being able to conclude one thing in reply of the previous — I would suggest you learn to crawl before attempting to walk and talk as it can become quite nauseating for readers who have little experience with facing such snotlings in reading your comments. Ha-ha!

Cheers,
Daniel Moszkowicz (TKofC)

Larry T. October 24, 2011 at 3:35 pm

I don’t wish to be mean but as of this series of posts I will avoid reading anything posted here by this Daniel M. fellow. They’re easy enough to skip but the shame is they end up causing other posts to respond to his and so on….which really puts a dent in the atmosphere I came here to enjoy in the first place. I’m sure there’s a wonderful audience out there for you Daniel M, (TKofC) but I truly don’t believe the Inner Ring is it. I would have no problem if the nice guy who writes Inner Ring fixed it so you were unable to post any comments here, but that is his decision, not mine.

bumpby October 24, 2011 at 4:02 pm

Larry T,

I concur. While I welcome debate and constructive arguments, this chap is overtly commenting for the sole purpose of trolling, while bringing nothing to the party about cycling, except aggravating other commenters. I would not be sad if his contributions were “moderated”.

Ken October 24, 2011 at 4:04 pm

I’ve enjoyed following the discussions in this blog. Nice job, class act!
Just because it’s the off season, I hope you will not be temporarily shutting down. Surely the antics of the UCI, WADA, and the various money players will provide plenty of fodder for discussion, even if nobody is actually on a bicycle!

Martin W October 24, 2011 at 4:14 pm

@karsten – I suggest you try Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons.

Daniel Moszkowicz (TKofC) October 24, 2011 at 4:27 pm

Larry T. – doesn’t mean to be evil but since it’s in his nature how can he help himself. Ha-ha! Beauty! As of now I will attempt to resist reading anything by Larry T. as he on two posts has only saught to attempt to discredit me, when the discussion has been about other things to do with this blog and pro cycling. I was right about you being a dear little hypocrite, so thanks for confirming such a thing for me, good to know I’m still reading it correctly. As for the talk of audience and them being of a “wonderful” variety, I should think you would naturally join-up with some of the other commenters who have been floating the idea of a website devoted to me assembling an audience with the promise of my presence and performance. Perhaps one which drops a certain assortment of numbers in a favourable manner for scrutiny with a set domain application, and please remember it has to originate in Australia as that is key for its success.

Cheers,
Daniel Moszkowicz (TKofC)

Rider Council October 24, 2011 at 4:34 pm

As a blogger leaving the door open for the public to respond you run the risk of getting the odd annoying comment. However, you have an excellent blog with regular sharp observations (Cav did win the worlds after all) The only thing I would say is since you are now a leading opinion writer with influence I would rather see you reveal your identity at this point. We have a troubled sport and everything and everyone needs to be transparent.

Flashing Pedals October 24, 2011 at 7:45 pm

without a doubt one of my favourite blogs on professional cycling.

Some outstanding contributions from many, certainly adds a great depth & quality to the detail,
and the discussions that follow, ensure that some rival journalists could learn a thing or two !

As for revealing your identity, for me, it makes little difference.
I know who you are & I’m not telling. Floyd

Angelo senza la o October 24, 2011 at 8:02 pm

I’ve learned a great deal, thanks!

Larry T. October 24, 2011 at 9:37 pm

Martin W. – I was thinking of the same cartoon image while typing my request to this fellow!!!! Angelo senza la o has a couple of nice blogs with moderated comment, so while it’s certainly more work to screen them, perhaps it’s inevitable once a site attains a certain level of popularity? One of those “necessary evils” as they say. Back-in-the-day I remember an open forum type thing called RECBICYCLESRACING that ended up being dominated by an overbearing, opinionated a__hole to the point I simply stopped paying any attention to it. It was a shame because before this fellow came round there was some interesting information and exchange of ideas along with some spirited, but friendly debates there — with no name-calling….pretty much like the Inner Ring was — until recently.

OJT October 24, 2011 at 11:27 pm

This blog is still as tight and incisive as it was when I started reading about 18 months ago. No signs of drying up, quite the opposite. I continue to scan the comments section (despite its ever-increasing length) because it is so rich and always adds to the depth of the discussion, as has been mentioned above.

However, I started being selective about which responses I read some time ago. The shorter the comment, the better and I do have ‘favourite’ commenters. I won’t name them all now but from this post so far, Larry T, Flashing P and Rider C get my votes. You’re always worth reading so please keep writing.

roomservicetaco October 27, 2011 at 8:52 pm

Long time reader, infrequent commenter. Thoroughly enjoy the blog – thanks for producing it and thanks for the level of detail you provide.

Some things that I’ve always wondered about, which may or may not make good blog posts:

-how do pros learn and practice race tactics? do they just race or do they study “film” from past races? do they have tactics training sessions at their training camps? does it differ based on whether the rider is a sprinter or climber, stage racer or one-day rider, etc.?

-to what extend do current riders have connections with riders from the past? did many of the grow up following pro cycling and know the history of the sport or did they many riders just figure out at some point in their lives that they were good at riding and jump into the sport? other than the ex-pros that get involved with team management, what interaction do pros have with former pros?

-to what extent do riders have connections with the bikes and technology of bike manufacturing? Some (Lance, for example) seem to be massively obsessed with not just squeezing the last performance gain out of their machines, but also working with the designers and producers to get everything just right. Others seem to know very little about what they are riding or anything about the mechanics of a bicycle and just tell sponsors “make it stiff and light” . Is there a correlation between those that obsess about the machine and those that win?

-which riders are the most successful at generating off-the-bike endorsements? how have they gotten these endorsements? how much do they make off the bike versus on the bike? how do these numbers compare to pros from other sports?

Thanks for listening.

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